http://www.doverlocals.co.uk View the latest Dover Events taking place. Discuss local Dover issues. Dover Locals - The Dover Forum en Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:42:24 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/images/styles/wandering/misc/rss.jpg http://www.doverlocals.co.uk http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2712&goto=newpost Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:09:59 GMT The cost of taking fibre-based broadband to every UK home could top £28.8bn, says a report.
Compiled by the government's broadband advisory group, the report details the cost of the different ways to wire the UK for next generation broadband.
Another option, to take the fibres to street-level boxes, would only cost £5.1bn, it said.
Big differences in the cost of updating urban and rural net access will pose difficult choices, says the report.
High costs
In a statement Antony Walker, chief executive of the Broadband Stakeholder Group which drew up the report, said: "The scale of the costs involved means that the transition to superfast broadband will be challenging."
"We hope that this report will help to ensure an informed public debate on the key policy and regulatory decisions that lie ahead," he said.
The BSG report looks at the three most likely options for using fibre to boost the speed of the UK's broadband networks.
The cheapest option, at £5.1bn, is to take fibre only to the familiar street-level cabinets that act as a connection point between homes and exchanges. Beyond the cabinet to the home existing copper cables would be used. The BSG estimates that this system would permit speeds of 30-100 Megabits per second (Mbps).
The other two options involve taking fibre to homes via a shared or dedicated cable.
The BSG puts a £25.5bn price tag on the shared option which would see a small number of homes sharing the 2.5 Gigabits per second capacity of each line.
Giving every home or business its own dedicated cable is the most expensive option, said the BSG, and could cost up to £28.8bn. But it would mean each home would get up to 1Gbps.
But, warned the report, even these relatively simple choices conceal stark differences in the cost of taking fibre to different parts of the country.
For instance, it said that the high price of the cheapest option for fibre is already far higher than the amount telecoms firms have already spent cabling up the UK.
Also, it noted, taking fibre to homes in rural areas costs disproportionate amounts of money - essentially the more isolated a home the more it costs to take fibre to it.
The BSG estimates that getting fibre to the cabinets near the first 58% of households could cost about £1.9bn. The next 26% would cost about £1.4bn and the final 16% would cost £1.8bn.
The disparity in costs meant the UK faced some tough choices, said Mr Walker.
However, he added, enthusiasm for the take-up of broadband could make taking it to rural areas more palatable for telecoms firms.
"If operators could achieve a higher level of take-up in rural areas than we have predicted in our study, then the business case for deployment in those areas could improve significantly", said Mr Walker. ]]> News Center ricksterm http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2712 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2711&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:09:12 GMT Ahoy there james! Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do! If you ever need any help,... Ahoy there james!

Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do!

If you ever need any help, please feel free to ask one of my navigators! ]]> Embarkation Captain http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2711 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2710&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:46:35 GMT This blonde really wanted to go ice fishing. She?d seen many books on the subject, and finally, after getting all the necessary tools together, she... This blonde really wanted to go ice fishing. She?d seen many books on the subject, and finally, after getting all the necessary tools together, she made for the nearest frozen lake.
After positioning her comfy footstool, she started to make a circular cut in the ice. Suddenly---from the sky---a voice boomed,
?THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THE ICE!"
Startled, the blonde moved further down the ice, poured a Thermos of cappuccino, and began to cut yet another hole. Again, from the heavens, the voice bellowed,
?THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THE ICE!?
The Blonde, now quite worried, moved way down to the opposite end of the ice, set up her stool, and tried again to cut her hole. The voice came once more, even louder:
?THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER THE ICE!?
She stopped, looked skyward, and said, ? Is that you, Lord??
The voice replied,
?NO, THIS IS THE ICE RINK MANAGER!?

]]> Coffee Shop ROGER H http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2710 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2709&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:36:55 GMT hi all my name is lynton and i run the kent underground exploration website just thorght i whould say hi. hi all my name is lynton and i run the kent underground exploration website just thorght i whould say hi. ]]> Embarkation lynton http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2709 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2708&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:27:36 GMT Ahoy there lynton! Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do! If you ever need any help,... Ahoy there lynton!

Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do!

If you ever need any help, please feel free to ask one of my navigators! ]]> Embarkation Captain http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2708 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2707&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:17:42 GMT My apologies if I have upset someone but I have noticed that I have a moderated posting and cannot find out which one. Obviously I would like to... My apologies if I have upset someone but I have noticed that I have a moderated posting and cannot find out which one. Obviously I would like to know so as to avoid such things in the future (no promise to change my opinions but I am sure that I can find better ways of wording these things).

Everytime I click on to the moderated post notification it comes up that I do not have permission to access this thread. Can someone help? ]]> The Bridge Ptah http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2707 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2706&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:13:32 GMT At the risk of sounding like Victor Meldrew, another thing that annoys me is the appalling standard of some people's driving in this area. The drivers who deliberately pull out in front of you from a side road, forcing you to slow down, then drive slowly whilst blocking two lanes of traffic.

The people who violently change lanes without indicating or waiting for the traffic in the other lane to clear. You just have to brake or swerve to avoid them.

The drivers who, particularly on the school run around Tower Hamlets, think that it is acceptable to drive fast in the middle of the road or even at times on the wrong side of the road when their side is blocked, although there is already traffic in their path.

In over 30 years of driving, I have noticed a dramatic decline in driving standards and courtesy. Some pedestrians also take liberties. I have lost count of the number of times that young people particularly look into the road, see that a car is coming, then proceed to walk into the path of the car and dare the driver to run them over.

But probably the worst drivers of all are motorcyclists. I had the misfortune to drive to Hastings on a bank holiday this year which just happened to be when thousands of motorcyclists were descending on the town. Apparently it is an annual gathering and has a very poor record for accidents and fatalities. When I saw the things the motorcyclists got up to, I could see why so many get involved in accidents. They were speeding, recklessly overtaking into the path of oncoming traffic, forcing other vehicle drivers to brake or be involved in a head on collision. There was a lot of intimidation of other road users and just to ram the point home, some of the motorcyclists had anti car slogans on their bikes and clothing.

No wonder there are so many accident site signs with pictures of motorcycles on the Romney Marsh. :arghh: ]]> Dover Chat rascalhardin http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2706 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2704&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:58:53 GMT The new diagonal parking makes the road a death trap It has effectively turned the busy road into a single lane. This makes me angry as we expect... The new diagonal parking makes the road a death trap
It has effectively turned the busy road into a single lane.
This makes me angry as we expect things to be made safer than they were and not more dangerous so that the overpriced parking fees rake in lots more money! ]]> Dover Chat aellia http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2704 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2703&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:56:33 GMT saterday the 6th was a good day for canterbury with the TA doing every body proud along with the combind cadet force and verterns.4000 turned out in... saterday the 6th was a good day for canterbury with the TA doing every body proud along with the combind cadet force and verterns.4000 turned out in showery conditions to watch and applaud the soldiers,cadets and vets march past.they did with heads held high with pride.it was nice to see our mayor diane smallwood along with the town sargent representing the town,this provocks a question where were the district counsilers and why wernt they there representing the town as well.if dtc new about it why didnt the ddc or were they elcwere?.:arghh: ]]> Dover Chat max headroom http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2703 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2702&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 11:19:21 GMT After visiting Cullens Yard last weekend and having an awful time I thought It would be just to right a report to warn everyone just how the staff... After visiting Cullens Yard last weekend and having an awful time I thought It would be just to right a report to warn everyone just how the staff react to a complaint.

There was a large group of us wanting to dine in the "yard" part of the restaurant, we had ordered our food separately from each other, and were told that it wouldn't all come together in the same order and some of us would have to wait, when we did get the food things on the orders were missing a some of us had little on our plates...IE, sausage and mash that cost £8.95(approx) came out as 2 small sausages and a tiny bit of mash not even covering half the plate, and side orders missing to 3 dishes, when I went to complain about this I was told someone would come and see us, they never did. So I had to go back in and complain, during this complaint the "man" did not make eye to eye contact with me until I said "look we have paid to eat in a restaurant here and I don't think we are getting the service we have paid for", to which he raised his head to me and raised his voice and told me..."you have not paid to eat in a restaurant, you have paid to eat in a garden", I said "I beg your pardon is that any excuse to have food missing from my friends orders", I walked away before getting mad with him, 5 minute later he put a bowl of chips in front of one of my friends that didn't get his full order, I asked him if he would apologize for raising his voice to me, he of course said no and walked away shaking his head, this was in front of other customers and made me feel very low and hurt. I have since been told by others that if you have a complaint he has treated them in the same way. As we had to pay for our food before we got it, there was no way we could of got our money back and after paying approx £10 for each meal all of us together had spent about £70 on this meal to be left still hungry and very upset about the way we had been treated. mightily not impressed and I wont be going there again.:angry: ]]> Dover Chat Pinkfluff http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2702 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2701&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:43:23 GMT Hi all. Has enyone noticed how some businesses in Dover seem to be exempt from the normal parking rules? One particular example which annoys me is... Hi all. Has enyone noticed how some businesses in Dover seem to be exempt from the normal parking rules? One particular example which annoys me is Cleverly and Spencer who frequently park on double yellow lines outside their shop. By doing this, they block a traffic lane and cause traffic congestion, however the police never seem to do anything about it. ]]> Dover Chat rascalhardin http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2701 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2700&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:29:18 GMT Ahoy there rascalhardin! Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do! If you ever need any... Ahoy there rascalhardin!

Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do!

If you ever need any help, please feel free to ask one of my navigators! ]]> Embarkation Captain http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2700 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2699&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:18:38 GMT Ahoy there Hans! Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do! If you ever need any help, please... Ahoy there Hans!

Welcome aboard Dover Locals! I hope you enjoy your time here, theres certainly plenty to do!

If you ever need any help, please feel free to ask one of my navigators! ]]> Embarkation Captain http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2699 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2698&goto=newpost Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:04:04 GMT You may have seen the Sky News Exclusive this morning regarding the planned Channel crossing – main points being made:


Flight date - 24th September 2008 - time not known

Yves Rossy – former fighter pilot from Geneva – real life Buzz Lightyear

Wing slightly larger than a surf board, propelled by 4 jet engines was built in his garage

Will be released from a plane 3,000 feet up and follow the route taken by Bleriot

He will be travelling at up to 130 mph during his 15 minute flight across the Channel

The landing will be by parachute in Dover – two chutes for him and one for the wing

The flight will be transmitted on the National Geographic Channel at 2100hrs


Further information:

Information on preparations for the Channel flight can be found at
http://natgeochannel.co.uk/programmes/jetman

He has made a test flight over the Alps that can be seen at:
http://google.nationalgeographic.com/search?site=default_collection&client=default_fron tend&proxystylesheet=default_frontend&output=xml_n o_dtd&oe=UTF-8&q=rocket+man&btnG.x=33&btnG.y=12


Regards

Nigel ]]> Dover Chat Nigel Collor http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2698 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2697&goto=newpost Sat, 06 Sep 2008 23:40:44 GMT Yet again the imcompetence of agencies that work for the government have gone and lost files. ... Yet again the imcompetence of agencies that work for the government have gone and lost files.

http://news.aol.co.uk/prison-officer...60733113093723


When will the powers that be realise that farming out sensitive information for transfer or holding is not the answer? :arghh: :arghh: :arghh: :arghh: :arghh: ]]> News Center Higham8 http://www.doverlocals.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2697