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[Tunnel Rat]

Here's some more

[Tunnel Rat]

And more..... :D

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Got a few more somewhere...

[Jeane]

Great photos. I did a bit of 'investigating there last year. This is a bit about what I found:

At St James Church ruins in Dover I took a quick walk around and also held a piece of stone which I found on the ground to see what I could pick up from it (and returned it to where I found it afterwards.)

The local newspaper sent a photographer along and when he arrived and unpacked his equipment and one of the first questions he asked me was if I ever have any trouble with cameras during paranormal investigations? I said it often happened and asked him why? He showed me a photo his camera had apparently taken by itself whilst on his way there. It showed a streak of yellow light across a darker background. It wasn’t from anything inside his camera bag and there was no obvious explanation!

On moving along the chapel aisle I detected the presence of a woman called Lucy or Agnes who appeared to be around because she was mourning the loss of someone buried there, it was quite emotional in that spot, very sad and I could have easily cried. When we left I picked a daisy and left it in the area where I had sensed her.

Further along I felt as though there had been some kind of dual fought, a man called Richard with a connection to the Cinque Ports had been involved and I felt like laughing because they had set down their weapons and got into a fist fight almost like a pub brawl / punch up!

In the corner I found the lovely energy of two Victorian children running in and out playing games and hiding. They were dressed in drab dark clothes the little girl wearing a bonnet and the boy a cap. The energy next to it by the archway was not so nice. Someone had been killed there, stabbed twice, once in the back and once in the thigh. He died from loss of blood to the thigh wound and I felt a searing pain in my leg and as someone pointed out, seemed to be walking with a limp for a minute or two.

[Sid Perkins]

Great pics TR thanks. Good see a church taking all those Kraut hits in order to protect the pub next door!

Seriously though, what happened to the cemetary and the wall plaques from the original church, do we know?

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Sid Perkins said:

Great pics TR thanks. Good see a church taking all those Kraut hits in order to protect the pub next door!

Seriously though, what happened to the cemetary and the wall plaques from the original church, do we know?

The doors are in the museum.

The burials were either cremated or reinterred elsewhere in the town (over 1000 i think)

A lot if gravestones are used in the paths and floors in/around the church

[Jeane]

I remember seeing a lot of the grave stones being used as a path / floor.

It must have been a lovely little churchyard. :)

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I know this might seem an odd question Jeanne but did any off these spirits seem to be unusually really tall? Odd question i know. Interesting to know what church the bodies were interred too, i find it really sad when this happens, makes you wonder if they can rest because of it.

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Thanks tr as well for the pics. :) The new church of St james was at Maison Dieu, on St Marys school sports field. It got delapiated and knocked down because of it.

[Jeane]

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I know this might seem an odd question Jeanne but did any off these spirits seem to be unusually really tall? Odd question i know. Interesting to know what church the bodies were interred too, i find it really sad when this happens, makes you wonder if they can rest because of it.

Not an odd question at all - by the way I am happy to answer any psychic / cemetery / burial rites questions.

One of the men that fought in the 'duel' did as I recall appear to be tall.

Those that are re-interred will rest peacefully. They will have long moved on.

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My mum Jeane used to play round that area after it got bombed St James, she was with a friend one day, and said they both got followed by a bloke that was really unusually tall, i think she said he was wearing brown clothing. Her and her friend rushed home scared stiff. I dont know how tall, but unbelievely tall, but i suppose it could of seemed taller because they were so young. This man that was murdered , could he be not at peace, maybe they didnt find the killer.

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Does anybody know how you could find the parish records for St James, must be a bit confusing as the bodies were interred, im lost now??:confused:

[Jeane]

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My mum Jeane used to play round that area after it got bombed St James, she was with a friend one day, and said they both got followed by a bloke that was really unusually tall, i think she said he was wearing brown clothing. Her and her friend rushed home scared stiff. I dont know how tall, but unbelievely tall, but i suppose it could of seemed taller because they were so young. This man that was murdered , could he be not at peace, maybe they didnt find the killer.

Maybe he used to hang around the area where he was killed hoping to find the person who killed him?

As long as it wasn't the 'thing' I encountered at the Drop Redout. :o

I saw a ‘thing’ which was black, approx 7 feet high and moved from side to side. I could hear it breathing and it followed me. I didn’t stick around to find out what exactly it was and legged it back up the stairs two at a time!

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Ell you got me wondering now, she said he was seven feet tall, just glad she had a friend with her to back it up. Couldnt see face because she said hidden up, that was probally that as well, that made them leg it. But who wouldnt.:frown:

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:)Following this thread, if you would like to go to PEDIGREE OF DESCENDANTS OF HUGH JAVOB OF DOVER. If you look i think under 1600, you will find who was scrapping in the church. Very interesting stuff on this family.:) Cinque port connections too.

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Sorry HUGH JACOB. :)

[Jeane]

Gosh, I never followed up those I 'found' at the church. Wow.:o